installing new soffits/fascia under doorway eave?

[Ironman1079]

i have a cape cod house built in the mid 1940's and have a eave hangover that stick out about 3 feet over my front doorway. i removed the leaking gutter that was there but when i try to install the new one, there is not really anything to mount it too and to make it slope alittle bit, it doesnt look good because of the sagging soffits/rafters.

the rafters that come out to the end of the eave and the soffits are sagging andthe 4'x3' of soffit vents and all the fascia boards are breaking apart and look like garbage.

do companies come in and remove these when installing new ones or do they just install the new ones underneath the old ones?

i am debating wheather to remove them all, put up new 1'x4's for trimand putting new fascia against them and then installing new soffits,....or what other options do i have?

[Ironman1079]

here are some pics

[Wgoodrich]

Behind that soffit should be rafter tails, backing board nailed to the ceiling joists and 2x2s to support the metal soffit.

If your rafter tails are not rotted on the ends you should be able to locate the rafter tails that should reach from top to bottom of your gutter back. The gutter should be secured to the rafter tails allowing the drop for drainage of the gutter using gutter spike passing through the gutter using ferrells and driven into the ends of the rafter tails. The sagging you speak of should be hidden and a non issue once the gutters are installed. I would remove the facia and gutter back to look at conditions of the rafters. If rotted rafter tailes then cut out the rot and sister on new rafter tails then replace with new gutter back and facia. The gutter should be nailed by gutter nails to the rafter tails not the gutter back. The gutter back is only to keep the facia agains the back of the gutter.

Hope this helps

Wg

[Ironman1079]

Behind that soffit should be rafter tails, backing board nailed to the ceiling joists and 2x2s to support the metal soffit.

If your rafter tails are not rotted on the ends you should be able to locate the rafter tails that should reach from top to bottom of your gutter back. The gutter should be secured to the rafter tails allowing the drop for drainage of the gutter using gutter spike passing through the gutter using ferrells and driven into the ends of the rafter tails. The sagging you speak of should be hidden and a non issue once the gutters are installed. I would remove the facia and gutter back to look at conditions of the rafters. If rotted rafter tailes then cut out the rot and sister on new rafter tails then replace with new gutter back and facia. The gutter should be nailed by gutter nails to the rafter tails not the gutter back. The gutter back is only to keep the facia agains the back of the gutter.

Hope this helps

Wg

what is gutter back?

is that the 1x4's that get nailed along front of rafters and the fascia goes on top of or not?
i looked down from above and didnt see any 2x2's.........would these run parallel with the soffits and the soffits get nailed up into these are you saying?
should i remove all soffits there?


What i plamn on doing this friday the 15th is:

1. take down fascia and soffits down to all wood.

inspect rafter tailes like you mentioned. if ok, nail new backer board to front of eave and make sure she is level.
then level new backboard on thin left eave, and lower soffits and make sure they are as level and flat as i can get them.
after that, replace new fascia and soffits and other trim, then install new gutters?

sound about right?

should take a couple hours but will prob take me all weekend.... oh well, im slow.

[Ironman1079]

hi, i went to home depot to get some pricing on amterials and was wondering what the difference is between j and f channel?

i know the soffits would just lay on the j channel, correct? and it would fit inside the f channel, correct?

how would i anchor the channel onto the house directly above the door?

[Under_Miner]

The 'F' channel is installed on the wall and supports the soffit vent at the wall, the 'J' channel is installed on the under side of the soffit at the fascia, and acts as a support for the venting at the fascia end. They should be isntalled as shown in the picture below.

[Ironman1079]

The 'F' channel is installed on the wall and supports the soffit vent at the wall, the 'J' channel is installed on the under side of the soffit at the fascia, and acts as a support for the venting at the fascia end. They should be isntalled as shown in the picture below.

and obviously if your fascia board has a lip, you dont need j-channel, correct?

[Under_Miner]

and obviously if your fascia board has a lip, you dont need j-channel, correct?

The J-Channel is purely for support, if the fascia board curls back and provides a ledge for the soffit to rest on then the J-Channel is not required.