*gbeichho
December 12th, 2003, 09:38 AM
#31: Sill Plate Placement and Anchor Bolts Author: gbeichho, Location: Toronto, Canada Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:41 am
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This is a continuation of the following thread in the archives (although a fair bit is missing...)
http://www.selfhelpforums.com/selfhelparchives/viewtopic.php?t=2675
First I'll post a few pictures so you can see what we did:
Rotten Joists and Rim Joist discovered after removing siding... Note the spacers under the joists when we blocked it up. This is so we could slide a sister joist beside the rotten one
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/RottenJoists640.JPG
My new Footing -- 18" wide x 7-8 " deep!
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/MyNewFooting640.JPG
Huge Rock we couldn't move -- we will be pouring a concrete bridge over this guy soon
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/ImmovableRock640.JPG
Huge Rock we did move. Couldn't lift it out, so we dug a hole behind and slightly lower, then rolled it back out of the way into the crawlspace. We dug a trench in behind it so we could will still have access to the foundation wall once we close it all up. You can see from the picture that we dug out a huge portion from this corner. This corner was being held up by the joists and walls because the beam was rotten right through. We blocked it up in the corner while we were digging just in case, but now that we've jacked the building back up to the proper height, this corner sits 1" higher without any blocks holding it up -- we still blocked it. We're assuming it will eventually settle back into the right position over time.
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/RockWeMoved640.JPG
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#32: Author: gbeichho, Location: Toronto, Canada Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:59 am
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OK, so here is the outstanding problem:
I'm going to have problems installing the Sill plate over top of the anchor bolts (which I haven't placed yet). The reason is that the cottage is already unhappy to be at the final resting height and I don't think it's feasible to raise it another 2.5" which is what is required to get it over the anchor bolts. It won't go that much higher because it's attached to an addition that is not being raised (and I really don't want to raise it any further either).
Without these bolts, we only have to raise the cottage another 1/4" to slide in the sill plate. The only way I can figure we can anchor the sill plate is to cut a notch at every anchor bolt so the sill plate slide around the bolt. Of course this won't give us any real horizontal anchor along that axis, but it will provide stability over the other axis and vertically.
Any thoughts? I have attached a diagram outlining my dilemna.
Diagram of situation
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/JackHeight640.bmp
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#58: Author: Wgoodrich, Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:31 pm
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Slicing the sill plate is fine. Just slide it into place then bolt it down using washer and nut. Then take a flat piece of steel plate and nail it to cut edge of sill plate with three nails or screws on each side of hte cut slot.
Any rot in old boards or beams should be cut away. Rot is like a desease it will spread to your untreated wood if touching or real close to rot.
Good Luck
Wg
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This is a continuation of the following thread in the archives (although a fair bit is missing...)
http://www.selfhelpforums.com/selfhelparchives/viewtopic.php?t=2675
First I'll post a few pictures so you can see what we did:
Rotten Joists and Rim Joist discovered after removing siding... Note the spacers under the joists when we blocked it up. This is so we could slide a sister joist beside the rotten one
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/RottenJoists640.JPG
My new Footing -- 18" wide x 7-8 " deep!
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/MyNewFooting640.JPG
Huge Rock we couldn't move -- we will be pouring a concrete bridge over this guy soon
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/ImmovableRock640.JPG
Huge Rock we did move. Couldn't lift it out, so we dug a hole behind and slightly lower, then rolled it back out of the way into the crawlspace. We dug a trench in behind it so we could will still have access to the foundation wall once we close it all up. You can see from the picture that we dug out a huge portion from this corner. This corner was being held up by the joists and walls because the beam was rotten right through. We blocked it up in the corner while we were digging just in case, but now that we've jacked the building back up to the proper height, this corner sits 1" higher without any blocks holding it up -- we still blocked it. We're assuming it will eventually settle back into the right position over time.
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/RockWeMoved640.JPG
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#32: Author: gbeichho, Location: Toronto, Canada Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:59 am
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OK, so here is the outstanding problem:
I'm going to have problems installing the Sill plate over top of the anchor bolts (which I haven't placed yet). The reason is that the cottage is already unhappy to be at the final resting height and I don't think it's feasible to raise it another 2.5" which is what is required to get it over the anchor bolts. It won't go that much higher because it's attached to an addition that is not being raised (and I really don't want to raise it any further either).
Without these bolts, we only have to raise the cottage another 1/4" to slide in the sill plate. The only way I can figure we can anchor the sill plate is to cut a notch at every anchor bolt so the sill plate slide around the bolt. Of course this won't give us any real horizontal anchor along that axis, but it will provide stability over the other axis and vertically.
Any thoughts? I have attached a diagram outlining my dilemna.
Diagram of situation
http://www.eichholzer.net/webpostings/JackHeight640.bmp
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#58: Author: Wgoodrich, Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:31 pm
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Slicing the sill plate is fine. Just slide it into place then bolt it down using washer and nut. Then take a flat piece of steel plate and nail it to cut edge of sill plate with three nails or screws on each side of hte cut slot.
Any rot in old boards or beams should be cut away. Rot is like a desease it will spread to your untreated wood if touching or real close to rot.
Good Luck
Wg