Cat5e wiring from the NID

[Lynchjddtr]

I'm in the process of rewiring the phone lines in the house with Cat5e. My question is can I install a direct line from the NID to the house where I have a Open House H616 Phone hub to branch out to the other phone jacks. I'm also replacing the RJ11 jacks with RJ45. I should also mentioned that I will be getting DSL soon. Will it improve the speed doing it that way or is doesn't matter and use the phone line coming into the house connection. Here is some background information, (1) I have 1 phone line coming into the house, I did have 2 additional lines (turned off) (2) currently the phone line color scheme is red, green, black and yellow. Sorry for the long winded description. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Jay

[suemarkp]

I don't know exactly what a H616 phone hub is, but anything that takes your phone and breaks it out into multiple terminations for all of your wall jacks is what you want. Daisy chaining is bad, star type wiring is good, especially when increasing speeds like DSL.

What is your goal with the RJ-45's in the wall? Do you want a combination jack that will allow either network or phone? If not, I'd stay with RJ-11 or RJ-12 in the wall, as I've had trouble always seating a normal phone cable in an RJ-45 jack -- sometimes they twist and don't make good contact.

Mixing phone and network in the same jack isn't the best design, but it can work. Using a better cable, like cat-5e will help. Make sure you use a wiring scheme that will make this work right -- you'll want TIA 568A and not 568B.

If I could run 1 cable to each room, I could just as easily run two. So I ran one for network (cat-5e), and one for phone (cat-5). This way, the network can expand to gigabit LAN and I can have 1 to 3 phone lines in each room. Having separate jacks is nice unless you like to make custom ones that split out the phone and network separately.

[Lynchjddtr]

Mark,
The H616 hub is something that I found on the internet. You hookup the phone line to the 'IN' connect and it gives you a feed to up to 6 seperate rooms (star topography). To give you a little back ground, I'm in the process of getting Satellite TV and since our phone wiring is old and has been spliced up by the previouse owners. That I would upgrade both at the same time. I had did some research on the internet and it was suggested that I use Cat5E (I probably went a little overboard). At this point the line will only be for Phone Service. I am using th TIA 568A wiring schema. Another thing is will doing the research, there was mentioned of a 'Homerun' setup, I believe this refers to a hard wire to the NID, this is the reason for me question - can this be done - currently the wires from the NID are in Red, Green, Yellow and Black and I'm not how this would wire up (meaning would this benefit the speed of the DSL that would be connected to the hub). I have found information on wiring schema for the RGBY to the new standard blue/blue white/orange/orangewhite. I'm probably rampling on - to get to the point. Can I go with a direct feed from the hub inside the house to the NID?

Jay

[suemarkp]

Yes. Homerunning is the same thing as a star. Some people home run all the way to the NID and then put giant bundles of blue under one screw, white-blues under another and so on. Your approach is better, especially if you're replacing the NID to H616 wire with cat-5 rather than use the old reg/green/yellow/black type of wire.

There is also some sort of filter that is required for DSL. I've never had it so I don't know exactly how it works. But I think it needs to be either in the NID or just before your H616 box. This will split out the internet signal from the voice signals. The internet signal will then go to a modem and this converts it to ethernet that you can now distribute in a similar way with a central ethernet switch or router/switch combo.

[Lynchjddtr]

Mark
Thanks for the information, I remember reading/seeing something regarding placing a filter around the NID. I will go back and see what exactly it was.
Jay

[Mr T]

DSL filters usualy go at your phone jacks inline with your phones. Its just a small plugin box. Some have a splitter built in, one output for a phone, one for the modem. Your DSL starter kit should have a few of these in there.. If not, your local rat shack, or other fine :rolleyes: stores will carry them. They are cheap.

[suemarkp]

To learn more about DSL filters and how you should install them, read this:

http://www.hometech.com/learn/dsl.html