Rough in

[Unregistered]

I am having a new house built and getting estimates for the wiring. What is normal or industry standard, for the rough wiring. Does it cover hooking up all the wire to the main service, and sub panel to a attached guarge. and what is considered finishing wiring, and all that comes with that service. Is phone and cable part of the rough in, for any of the electical rough in or is this done by someone else.

Thanks
Sean

[Ron]

No industry standard.
Sometimes, rough wiring includes all wiring and boxes but no terminations.
Cable/Telco and network wiring is sometimes part of rough and sometimes not, depends on the contract.
Providing the circuit breaker panel/guts and termination blocks for telco/cable/network, are usually part of rough but it depends, but no terminations.

Finish is everything else, again depending on the scope of work in the contract.

[mdshunk]

Like Ron said there's no standard. Myself, I hook up all the grounds and neutrals in the panel, and leave all the hots coiled up inside the panel. Service entrance is otherwise complete for ruff. Breakers are not provided until finish. The electrician's proposal should have a "scope or work" or similar section that will spell all this out. If not, ask for it to be spelled out. I get the feeling that you hope the ruff will include enough work, so that you are comfortable doing the finish yourself? Might be tougher to get a decent bid by doing that. Just some thoughts. Finish wiring in my book is just setting devices, cover plates, light fixtures, recessed light trim, bathroom exhaust fan trim, breakers and termination to breakers, putting cords on dishwasher and disposal and range and dryer, hooking up range hood (if not already done), light bulbs, door chime and chime button, and adding thermostat if HVAC contractor didn't. Sometimes some of the finish electrical might get done by another trade. For instance, sometimes the plumber will put cords on the dishwasher and disposal. The HVAC guy may wire up the furnace. The appliance delivery people may put cords on the range and dryer. The spa or hottub people may hook their equipment up. The well guy may hook up the well equipment.

[Speedy Petey]

Copy from the electrical forum(Sorry for the redundancy guys)(Nice to see we think alike):

What is included is what you agree to pay for. There is no standard.
The service is usually not included with the rough. A sub-panel is only included if it is in the contract.
Are you asking about the rough only? This is very non-standard.
Usually a price is give to rough and finish. Are you planning on finishing yourself? If so I HIGHLY advise against it.

[rabadger]

Go to www.HVAC-consult.com check it out. They may be able to help.

[Wgoodrich]

Rabadger, other than for advertising purposes what was the reason you posted a link on an electrical rough in question referring to heating and air conditioning ?

Concerned

Wg

[bmwpower]

Business must be slow this month...

[mdshunk]

I called the phone number on the HVAC Consulting website and got "Hello, HVAC Consulting. Richard Badger speaking."

Apparently his advertising budget must be low, and he's planting his link wherever he can. Not cool.