Subpanel in Bathroom

[Unregistered]

I'm running plumbing and electrical conduit for a 4' x 5' bathroom that I
intend to enclose once my workshop is built (30'x24').
My question is, can the subpanel (Breaker Box) be installed inside the
bathroom? The panel will be located on an end wall of the building.

I will be feeding this subpanel underground coming from the main service for
the house.

Thanks,
Ray

[Unregistered]

I found the answer to my question by scrolling down the forum page.

I should have done that prior to my post.

Ray

[Wgoodrich]

Just to make sure no panel is allowed in a clothes closet or a bathroom.

Curious why not run romex instead of conduit, masonry or wood building?

Wg

[Unregistered]

Just to make sure no panel is allowed in a clothes closet or a bathroom.

Curious why not run romex instead of conduit, masonry or wood building?

Wg

I'm running a 60 amp service to a subpanel for a new metal building and I was advised to use # 4 wires run through conduit. Can # 4 wires be run without c conduit ??
BTW, I'm the same person that posted wanting to know about maximum radius bends for conduit. You mention that you can sweep this conduit but I'm using 1 1/2 inch schedule 40 pvc and I would find that hard to make sweeps with. Could you further advise.
Thanks,
Ray

[Wgoodrich]

Usually if you are running 4 awg copper you will only find it in single THWN wires, no direct buried cables normaly available.

Glue 20' of 2" PVC together and push in the middle. You would be surprised how much curve you can create without causing failure of the coupling or damage to the conduit. 1 1/2" would curve that much easire. Glue 60' together and you could make it look like a snake's trail.

Remember if above ground subject to physical damage to use Schedule 80 PVC not 40. Schedule 40 is fine underground.

Try it you'lle like it

Wg

[Unregistered]

I appreciate your advice and I'm confronted with another scenario to which I hope you can help me. Be advised that I have read your detached garage link on your website.
Since I cant' install my breaker panel in the bathroom, the area that I'd like to choose would be located approximately in the middle of the forward wall of the shop next to the entry door. The problem is that there will be an 8' porch of poured concrete in front of that wall and I figure out a way to run my grounding conductor. The distance from the panel to earth is approximately 15' on either side. Could I bury the ground rod next to the building and run the grounding conductor under/through the concrete up to the panel ??

Or is there another way of doing this ??

Thanks in advance.
Ray

[Wgoodrich]

YOu may do as you discribed running hte wire in or under the concrete.

However you also could drill holes horizontally through your studs to a point to the side of your porch running the bare or insulated grounding wire through the studs without protection then poke it out of the wall and connect to the rod installed to the side of the porch.

You mentioned coming in underground to that panel. If your feeder is coming in underground under that concrete porch be sure to use conduit while under the porch and in the wall to ensure you can pull a new wire if the wire fails. Concrete makes for a permenant installation. Just thinking ahead for you.

Good Luck

Wg

[Unregistered]

WG,
Thanks for all you help this far.

The building will be a metal building - there are no studs to go thru. One fella advised me to bury the grounding rod under the slab before it's poured and to bond it to the rebar in the footing, do you agree with that ??

You had advised that I should use schedule 80 for the feeder coming into the subpanel to prevent damage. The conduit will come up through the slab on the inside of the building, couldn't I get away with schedule 40 being that it's on the inside ??

Ray

[Speedy Petey]

40 is fine inside as long as it isn't in a hard use area where it may get damaged.

You can bury the ground rod in the trench you are digging for the conduit. We run the complete conduit first then pull wire. You can throw in the ground rod with the #6 attached well before you install the panel. As long as it will be near the panel where it enters the building.
You must also bond the building steel and the rebar in the slab as well as bond any water piping in the building. If the water pipe feeding the building is metal and in contact with 10' of earth you must attach the GEC within 5' of the pipe entering the building.

[Unregistered]

Speedy,
Thanks for the advice but have a couple questions for you.

Will a 5/8" - 8 foot ground rod do the job for me ??

Am I to use a special clamp for underground applications to bond the #6 to the rod ??

How do you suggest I bond the metal building and the rebar to the grounding rod I assume ??

I'm running pvc to supply water to the building.

Thanks,
Ray

[Speedy Petey]

5/8"x8' is standard and the copper clamp is made for direct burial.

You'll have to drill and bolt a lug to the steel somewhere and a ground rod clamp works good for rebar.