Phone line and Security system

[NZombek]

Trying to remove a ADT (Aremco) security system box off my wall, it is tied into my phone line. It seems to act like a knot in my phone line, when I disconnect the box, I lose my phone. The box has 2 connectors in it which come out of the wall, 1 is plugged into the box, and 1 is plugged into a small box mounted on the wall next to the unit. So I purchased a female to female coupler for RJ-45 connectors. These connectors are larger than the standard phone connectors. This didn't work. Help

[mdshunk]

Your system is equipped with a line seizure module. This keeps a crook from breaking in and putting one of your phone sets off hook so that the security system cannot dial out. The security system is "ahead" of all the phone wiring of the house. You need to jump out the security system with an RJ11 pach cable (RJ45 is for networking). If you have any trouble, write back with model/serial and I can help you more precisely. Probably an Ademco "Vista" type sytem.

[NZombek]

Your system is equipped with a line seizure module. This keeps a crook from breaking in and putting one of your phone sets off hook so that the security system cannot dial out. The security system is "ahead" of all the phone wiring of the house. You need to jump out the security system with an RJ11 pach cable (RJ45 is for networking). If you have any trouble, write back with model/serial and I can help you more precisely. Probably an Ademco "Vista" type sytem.
Thanks, for your help, you seem to know my problem. My unit is a Lynx-R, Model 1332 (FCC ID CFS8DLLYNX) Ademco. The 2 connectors coming out of the wall 1 to the unit and 1 to a small box mounted next to the unit are not standard RJ11 connectors, they do fit in the RJ45 coupler I bought, but it doesn't work. Any help would be appreciated.

[suemarkp]

It is difficult to know exactly what you have without seeing it. The correct way to have installed this is via an RJ-31X jack. This looks like what you're calling an RJ-45 (an 8 position jack), but the wiring is different from the RJ-45 application. What this jack does is provide access to the phone line and one or more connections to phones in the house. The RJ-31X jack is supposed to connect those two segments together when the 8 position plug is removed. So maybe you have a broken RJ-31X jack or someone just put in an regular 8 position jack without the shorting bars.

When your alarm is plugged in, it shorts the external and internal phone segments together and disconnects them when the alarm triggers. When you remove the alarm, it appears that the jack is not re-connecting things like it should. You need to identify the source phone line (should be on pins 4 & 5), and the internal phone wires (should be on pins 1 and 8). Then connect them together tip to tip, and ring to ring (wire on pin 4 to wire on pin 1, wire on pin 5 to wire on pin 8). This is easy if all the wires are in one color code, but they probably aren't. The RJ-31X standard has the house phones as grey and brown terminals. The grey would connect to green and the brown connects to red if you have the old red/green/black yellow phone cable.

See this link for more details and pictures:
http://www.hometech.com/learn/rj31x.html

Since you have two jacks on the wall, I don't know exactly what you have. You should have a dial tone from one of them though.

[mdshunk]

The lynx system is a wireless capable system. Sweet install for an older house, etc. Anyhow, on the back of the unit, you should have two phone jacks. Facing the back of the alarm unit, one leftmost jack is an RJ11. This jack goes to your house phones. The jack to the right of the RJ11 is an 8 position phone jack (I forget the RJ number for 8 pos jacks). This is the phone line into the unit (from the telco). You have to make up a jumper that will jump the pair for line one on the 8 position connector to line one on the RJ11 connector. On the 8 position connector, line one is the MIDDLE TWO pins. On the RJ11 connector, line one is also the MIDDLE TWO pins. It may be easier to find the other end of these wires and jumper the thing there.

You'll also notice on the back of the unit a sixteen position terminal strip, that should be labeled from left to right, 1 through 16. Pin 2 and 3 are the alternate connections for the incoming phone line, and pins 4 and 5 are the alternate terminals for the phones in the house. Since you said that they used the modular plugs, pins 2 through 4 are likely empty. There's two possible ways to hook the phone lines to the system.

I'm curious to know why your taking the thing out? It's a modern system. Even if you don't want to pay monitoring fees, you could still leave it hooked up for the local alarm. I can give you instructions how to reprogram it to dial someone else besides ADT if you want (like the local pizza shop).

[Dosman]

I like to know all you have about wiring and how to reset a master code...
I have this use but the owner died and I can't set anything until I bypass his code...can you help?

[mdshunk]

I can assist you in resetting the master code or installer's code, but I'll need the manufacturer, model, and serial number of the unit. I'll admit ahead of time, that I am suspicious of your intentions. I'll make a wild prediction and say that you'll never reply with the information.

[Unregistered]

ah ha.. I found this forum. I love google.

I just bought a house with a ADT PC 1555 alarm system. I have no intentions on using a monitored system, but would like to know if this thing would work offline. If so does it just emit a siren in the house if triggered?


Anyway It has been unplugged since I moved in and was wondering if there is anything I need to know to use this offline.

Thanks

[mdshunk]

Yes, it will work without monitoring. The system may have ADT badges on it, but it is actually made by DSC. Since this was a monitored system at one time, it may or may not have the local siren/bell installed. The system does have a 12V output for such, but it may/may not be installed. In either event, the keypad(s) will still beep and carry on during an alarm. If the system was monitored at one time, it may still try to dial out during an event. You can disable this feature (no big deal either way).

This was and still is a popular system for builders to install in new homes. It has hardwired zones (desireable) that are wired during construction, and the system is expandable with wireless zones (easy) by the homeowner at a later time if they wish. It's what's called a hybrid system.

Hope the old owner passed along the master code.

[Unregistered]

I have an Ademco Lynx Wireless alarm system. The model number(s) are LYNXR / LYNXR24 / LYNXR-EN I am not sure exactlyy which it is, But I assume the three are sufficiently similar that the distinction is almost irrelevant for my intentions.

I originally got this alarm when I was in a former apartment but the block was torn down so I ripped it out of the wall and took it with me. Now (a few years later) I wish to intall it in my new place as a local non-monitored alarm. None of the local alarm companies will do an install for me as I don't want to purchase monitoring.

My specific question has to do with the wiring into the alarm from the wall plug. When I uninstalled it was a bit of a rush job (My bad #1)and I didn't label the wires properly (my bad #2). Now I have a plug unit, an intermediate line, and an alarm panel, all seperate. I would like to know how to connect the three so that the correct wires are connected to the correct places (so as to NOT cause that horid acidic smelling electronic smoke :P)

In more detail, The AC plug has two screw connectors, (rather simple really), the line appears to be phone line, it has a green, blue, orange, brown, and white with (1 each ) green, blue, orage and brown stripe. On each end of the wire the green and white with green stripe are twisted together, the orage, blue, and brown are twisted together, and the remainng three are twisted together, to from three sets of wires. Weather this was from the install, from my removal as a hint to myself that failed miserably, or by happenstace over 2 years in a box I dunno.
The unit it self has a 16 slot screw fasteing connector stip labeled left to right 1 - 16, a 4 pin telephone (?) jack and a 8 pin jack. I have the 8 pin plug but i don't know if thats AC or for the phone connections, either way is has brown, black, blue, green, pink, grey, orange, and yellow wires exposed.

I hope I have given enough info,
So yea, which wire goes where to get the power into the unit???

Thanks so much for any help you can offer.

S

[paul.h]

I need to know how to find the installer code, so that I can reset the master code for an Ademco Lynxr24 alarm unit. I recently moved to a condo that was once monitored. It is not hooked to a working phone line. I have tried complete power down and removed the battery, then */#, then #20 and it will not display the installer code. Please advise

[krollandvs]

MDSHUNK...I need your help please. I was searching the net for instruction manuals for the ADEMCO lynxr/lynxr24/lynx-en model security system when I cam upon this site and your knowledge of it. I just purchased a house that has this system installed and I realy don't want to pay the 32.95 per month monitoring fee, but would still like to use it as you have mentioned in some of your posts. My problem is the previous owners didn't leave any manual or instructions for this system. I did find a PDF manual online (one for a LYNXR/LYNXR24 and one for the LYNXR-EN) but they do me no good since I don't have the master code....what would you suggest/recommend? Thank you in advance for any help you can give me.

Ken ( krollandvs@yahoo.com )

[suemarkp]

MDSHUNK has been AWOL for quite some time and no one seems to know ehere he went. Perhaps someone else here will know the answer. You could try the factory to see if they will tell you a reset sequence or if there's a way to send the unit in if that's the only way to replace the installer code. See if you can find an installers manual for this unit.

You didn't say which manual you found. Some have more than one and could have an installer manual, a programmers manual, and a users manual. You could go here: http://www.norcoalarms.com/protect_ademco.html but I don't know if they'll give you a manual password if you didn't buy a system from them.

[upandatum]

I have the system you mentioned below ... The alarm system has an outdoor siren system attached and it is presently a monitored system using a dialout number on a phone line (DSC 1555) . I want to stop the system monitoring (in otherwords cancel the contract with the alarm company) but the question becomes ... How can I change the telephone number it will automatically dial to be my cell phone?

Thanks
Yes, it will work without monitoring. The system may have ADT badges on it, but it is actually made by DSC. Since this was a monitored system at one time, it may or may not have the local siren/bell installed. The system does have a 12V output for such, but it may/may not be installed. In either event, the keypad(s) will still beep and carry on during an alarm. If the system was monitored at one time, it may still try to dial out during an event. You can disable this feature (no big deal either way).

This was and still is a popular system for builders to install in new homes. It has hardwired zones (desireable) that are wired during construction, and the system is expandable with wireless zones (easy) by the homeowner at a later time if they wish. It's what's called a hybrid system.

Hope the old owner passed along the master code.

[bosley]

hi. im planning to put up a home security surveillance system that i can access remotely. do you have any suggestions on how i can possibly do it the most affordable way? any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[george]

try asking questions at this website's forum

http://homesecuritystore.com