PDA

View Full Version : new counter codes


joed
October 25th, 2004, 10:56 AM
How does this code apply if you use a combination of the new 20 circuits and split 15 amp circuits.
For example say I use 2 20amp gfci on either side of sink then another stretch of counter on other side of stove or fridge. Can I use a split circuit there. How would this count in the 3 split circuit requirement or 5 20 amp circuit requirement.

Homer
October 25th, 2004, 03:09 PM
My understanding of Ontario kitchen requirements is;

1) A minimum of two kitchen counter circuits (either 15A multiwire or 20A single).

2) Adjacent counter receptacles must be on different circuits.

3) A maximum of two receptacles on a kitchen counter circuit.

4) Receptacles on either side of the sink are not considered to be adjacent.

5) Receptacles within 1m of the sink are to be GFCI protected.

6) A receptacle on a dedicated circuit for the refridgerator.

7) A receptacle on a dedicated circuit for the 'eating area' of the kitchen.

Based on the above, you should be able to have;

A) The first kitchen counter circuit (20A circuit) supplying a 20A T-slot GFCI receptacle on one side of the sink and a 20A T-slot receptacle on the other side of the sink from the GFCI's load terminals.

B) The second kitchen counter circuit (15A multiwire circuit) supplying a pair of split receptacles that are not adjacent and are not GFCI protected.

Homer

Guido
October 28th, 2004, 07:20 AM
5) Receptacles within 1m of the sink are to be GFCI protected.

I thought ALL kitchen counter receptacles are to be GFCI protected. Or is this only starting in Jan 2005?
I wish I remember where I read this.

Homer
October 28th, 2004, 03:33 PM
I thought ALL kitchen counter receptacles are to be GFCI protected. Or is this only starting in Jan 2005?
I wish I remember where I read this.As far as I know, in Ontario, only kitchen counter receptacles within 1m of the sink edge are required to be GFCI protected. This was effective Jan. 1/2003 and is an Ontario specific amendment to the CEC. Before this there was no GFCI requirement for kitchen counter receptacles.

In other provinces that have adopted the 2002 CEC without a similar amendment there is still no GFCI requirement for kitchen counter receptacles.

In the USA, the NEC requires all kitchen counter receptacles to be GFCI protected.

Homer

Guido
October 29th, 2004, 06:45 AM
As far as I know, in Ontario, only kitchen counter receptacles within 1m of the sink edge are required to be GFCI protected. This was effective Jan. 1/2003 and is an Ontario specific amendment to the CEC. Before this there was no GFCI requirement for kitchen counter receptacles.

In other provinces that have adopted the 2002 CEC without a similar amendment there is still no GFCI requirement for kitchen counter receptacles.

In the USA, the NEC requires all kitchen counter receptacles to be GFCI protected.

Homer
You must be right - I think I got confused with the NEC.

Mr Fixit eh
November 3rd, 2004, 12:40 PM
1) A minimum of two kitchen counter circuits (either 15A multiwire or 20A single).

I was not aware of this rule. My summary of the code states that any uninterupted 12" span of counter must have an outlet, and no point of the countertop can be more than 35" from a receptacle (ie. minimum 70" apart).

In combination with the split duplex rule and no adjacent receptacles on same circuit, the upshot of it is that usually at least two circuits are needed.

PS
I did get a ruling from the Ontario electrical safety authority people that you can have two 20A receptacles on either side of the sink on the same circuit.

Homer
November 3rd, 2004, 02:52 PM
I was not aware of this rule. My summary of the code states that any uninterupted 12" span of counter must have an outlet, and no point of the countertop can be more than 35" from a receptacle (ie. minimum 70" apart).

In combination with the split duplex rule and no adjacent receptacles on same circuit, the upshot of it is that usually at least two circuits are needed.

PS
I did get a ruling from the Ontario electrical safety authority people that you can have two 20A receptacles on either side of the sink on the same circuit.I would recommend that you review 26-722 (b).

CEC/OESC 2002 26-722(b)

Except as permitted by 26-722(c) & (d) and 26-726, at least two multiwire branch circuits shall be provided along the wall of kitchen counter work surfaces of dwelling units...

Basically if your kitchen is so small that you only need 1 receptacle based on those counter span distances, then you can get away with only 1 circuit.

Also, Ontario amended the 2002 CEC effective Jan. 1 /2003 concerning kitchen circuits. See this link (http://www.esainspection.net/pdf/gfci_notice.pdf).

Homer

Mr Fixit eh
November 3rd, 2004, 05:03 PM
'twould have to be a very tiny kitchen, wouldn't it!