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Unregistered
December 15th, 2003, 03:03 AM
Recently I have noticed after completing a cycle, and several hours after there seems to be a leakage from the rinse aid dispensor. It it not overfull and the plastic cover is tight. After a cycle it completely clean, but hours or days after there is that persistent little leak.
Whats gives?

jeff1
December 15th, 2003, 05:14 AM
Hello,

Leaking inside, or between the doors and onto the floor? Kenmore is also made by several different manufactures.
LINK> Model# helps linked here (http://www.applianceaid.com/model.html)

The end result will probably be a new dispensor but we may learn some more once we see what style yours looks like :)

jeff.

www.applianceaid.com (http://www.applianceaid.com/)

Unregistered
December 15th, 2003, 07:48 AM
Hello,

Leaking inside, or between the doors and onto the floor? Kenmore is also made by several different manufactures.
LINK> Model# helps linked here (http://www.applianceaid.com/model.html)

The end result will probably be a new dispensor but we may learn some more once we see what style yours looks like :)

jeff.

www.applianceaid.com (http://www.applianceaid.com/)

leaking inside around the cap.

Unregistered
December 15th, 2003, 11:12 AM
Model # 17822 Sears Kenmore. This is a less than 1 month old machine. Could the cap be defective?

jeff1
December 15th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Hi,

Model # 17822 Sears Kenmore

Kenmore model#'s are like 123.45678910

This is a less than 1 month old machine. Could the cap be defective?

Yes the cap could be bad....call and have them check it out for you the d/w is still under warranty!! The threads on the cap or on the dispensor may also be bad and the cap cannot stay in place tight enough.

jeff.

www.applianceaid.com (http://www.applianceaid.com/)

Unregistered
December 16th, 2003, 02:36 AM
I have ordered a new rinse dispensor cap. Will have to wait and see.
Incidentally, can you tell me how these dispensors work? Where is the agent dispensed into the tub at? Is it possible there is a switch or something holding open?

jeff1
December 16th, 2003, 03:56 AM
Hi,

can you tell me how these dispensors work?

Not 100% without the proper model# as Kenmore is made by several different manuafctures.

Where is the agent dispensed into the tub at?

A Whirlpool built kenmore dispensor works off of the timer going around lifting up mechanical arms to operate the soap and rince agent dispensors....some use a wax motor to operate the soap and rince agent dispensors. A small amount of the rince agent is dispensed into the d/w in the final rince of the d/w.

Is it possible there is a switch or something holding open?

A switch, probably not....a stuck mechanical part/piece is possible yes.

jeff.

Unregistered
December 17th, 2003, 09:06 AM
Thanks Jeff

The complete model is 665.17822000, a whirlpool made Kenmore unit. I have called service but was curious as how the function of that dispensor operated.

jeff1
December 17th, 2003, 03:10 PM
http://www.repairclinic.com/dbimages/00000076/00021565.jpg

http://www3.sears.com/Paul/Leadimage.asp?productTypeID=0130000&brandID=0582&modelDesc=DISHWASHER&modelNumber=66517822000&documentID=P0311057&documentTypeID=PLDM&documentClassCode=PM&titleType=INNER%20DOOR&titleID=00002&

It is operated/moved/opened by this wax motor....

http://www.repairclinic.com/dbimages/00000074/00020914.jpg

....the board sends power to this motor and the plunger moves out to trigger/trip the rince agent dispensor.

Hope this helps,

jeff.

Unregistered
December 20th, 2003, 09:36 AM
As a follow up, service evaluated this morning. As it turns out, there is nothing wrong except operator error. I have a god aweful habit of wiping out that Main Detergent Dispensor and then closing it. When I go use the DW again I have to manually open it and add detergent. you know flipping that mechanical latch.

That Main Deterg Disp is mechanically tied to the RA dispensor by an arm under the front panel of the cabinet. When the wax motor triggers the MDD to open it primes and releases RA into the cap area for later release. By ME manually opening and closing that dispensor, I am causing it to prime and release thus creating the runs on the inside of the door several hours after I complete a cycle.

jeff1
December 20th, 2003, 12:37 PM
Thankx for the follow up!! :)

That should help others :)

jeff.

Dan
January 14th, 2004, 07:10 AM
Hi --
I have a Whirlpool (Model DU890SWKQ0, Serial FL3813318) dishwasher that has the same symptoms -- rinse aid appearing througout the week inside the dishwasher (running down from the knob where you fill it). We only run the DW 1-2 times per week. We have really poor performance from it, and are in a hard water area, so I believe the rinse aid isn't working right, and we have hard water spots on the dishes.

The dishwasher is only 2 1/2 years old, and came with the house when I bought it (not new), so all warranties are up. I tried to determine the problem by opening up the door, and viewing the mechanism. I thought I figured out that the rinse aid was getting deployed at the wrong time (not during final rinse) and tried to reset it. I didn't have instructions, so I may not have done it right (seems like the setting of the control knob on the front panel of the DW will determine how the rinse aid dispenser will be timed -- I set the front knob to off, then tried to re-fit the dispenser). All the parts went back together, and it seemed to be working better, for a few weeks. Then, rinse aid started to build up again inside.

Is it just opening / closing the door that's doing it? Any tips on how to re-install the dispenser, or to diagnose?

Thank you for any and all assistance!

--Dan

jeff1
January 14th, 2004, 01:36 PM
Hello,

A breakdown of your dispensor...

http://www.partselect.com/Schematics/Whirlpool/G7ZYAAHQ.gif

Is it just opening / closing the door that's doing it?

That is usually how the dispensor loads up and is ready for the timer to move the cam around and lift up on the arms to open the dispensor. Dispensor body leaking, dispensor over filled, cap not seating properly, lift arms stuck. Newer caps says "*No O ring seal needed for new style cap"...maybe they have had problems there??

http://www.repairclinic.com/dbimages/00000040/00011915.jpg

LINK> Cap for rinse aid (http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=524580).

I could not find a manual for your model# :(

I did find this, not sure if it helps....

WHIRLPOOL, ROPER, & ESTATE DISHWASHERS REVISION TO SERVICE POINTER K4322503
COMPLAINT: Rinse Aid drips down the inner door.
CAUSE: The wetting agent dispenser and the slide mechanism not aligned properly causing the
dispenser seal to not properly. A new wetting agent dispenser is available to eliminate the misalignment.
SOLUTION: Wetting agent dispenser assemblies as follows:
Electronic Control Models: Part #8052028
Electromechanical Control Models: Part #8052027

http://www.repairclinic.com/dbimages/00000195/00056462.jpg

LINK> 8052027 (http://www.repairclinic.com/referral.asp?R=153&N=722075).

jeff.

Dan
January 15th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Thank you Jeff! I will definately take a look at both parts! I really appreciate the detailed information, and diagram.
--Dan

jeff1
January 15th, 2004, 04:16 PM
Your welcome!! I hope it helps,

jeff.

Bill
January 24th, 2004, 10:22 AM
there are these 2 small plastic balls that i have no idea where they go need help thanks

Unregistered
January 24th, 2004, 12:17 PM
there are these 2 small plastic balls that i have no idea where they go need help thanks

found where the two balls go, installed an impellar and that didnt fix the pumping out the water problem. what should i check now? this dishwasher is only 2 yrs old. please email me with any advice. igo2cjr@aol.com

jeff1
January 24th, 2004, 02:29 PM
Hi,

I got 665.15822000 to work for me.....a Whirlpool built Kenmore d/w.

LINK> Picture for those balls (http://www3.sears.com/Paul/Leadimage.asp?productTypeID=0130000&brandID=0582&modelDesc=DISHWASHER&modelNumber=66515822000&documentID=P0080177&documentTypeID=PLDM&documentClassCode=PM&titleType=PUMP%20AND%20MOTOR&titleID=00004&).

Not draining....is the motor running and not draining, is the motor reversing ok? This model runs the motor in one direction for washign and reverses the motor in the other direction for draining.

Dishwasher will not drain:

~Check for hose kinks or food plugging drain hose.
~Check pump impeller for damage
~Check pump motor for reversing during the pump out Make sure the dishwasher is pausing between the wash and drain cycles letting the pump/motor reverse for the drain cycle.
~Check timer for not letting the dishwasher pause.
~If you have recently installed a new garbage disposal, check knock-out plug at connection.
~Check the check valve and drain hose for debris.*
~Check that the water inlet valve isn't seeping fresh water into the dishwasher when off. (if yes, replace the inlet valve).

* That is a good place to start checking for any drain restrictions and work your way towards the house drain.

LINK> Some more draining tips and helps (http://www.applianceaid.com/drain_wash.html).

please email me with any advice. igo2cjr@aol.com

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jeff.