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Max
August 6th, 2007, 02:35 AM
Hi___ I have a water table about 25 ft down. what would be a easy way for me to tap into this to water my lawn, with out a big expense. I have seen well points for $50 but don’t know what to do. MAX..........

jjdriller1965@yahoo.com
August 6th, 2007, 06:11 AM
I don't know where you live, but if you live somewhere you can drive a well point, it can save you $. You may be able to rent a 40 lb.hammer that is used to drive fence posts, it slips over the top of the pipe and has two handles to raise and drop on the pipe. Purchase 30-35 feet of black iron pipe and your well point/screen. Buy 2-3 extra couplings, you will need spares to protect the pipe threads when you're driving the pipes into the ground. Get some strong string and a couple heavy washers as a weight so when you get down to the water table you can drop the line down to measure how much standing water is in your well. I've never responded to any "threads" before so I don't know if I am helping you here, or saying too much. I was a licensed well driller in NJ for 15 years. If you have any more specific questions I will be happy to walk you through the whole thing!

Max
August 6th, 2007, 09:01 AM
Jack
Thanks for the reply. Menards had 2 sizes of drill points, don’t remember sizes but when you drive them down does that pipe stay in the ground & what kind of pump do you use. We live in Monrovia, In. and have a clay base dirt. I have gas power post hole digger, I am capable of welding a fabricating just about anything. I had visions of a big tripod with drilling contraption hanging under it and drilling a well.

MAX..........
Monrovia,IN

Wgoodrich
August 9th, 2007, 07:23 PM
jjdriller, your reply was welcome and well said. Glad to see you replying and giving your knowledge to others. You did good. Warren Goodrich Co/Owner selfhelpandmoreforums.com.

Max, what he is talking about is not much different than driving a normal ground rod for electricians of a fence post for a farmer other than a lot more work. They call it a post driver. It is normally for ground rods or posts to be driven to be a 2" rigid threaded pipe with a cap on the end and hot lead poured into the pipe to harden as a thick lead wad in the bottom of the pipe as added weight to pound harder. Then turn it upside down over the pipe and start driving it into the ground. If you use a well head and drive say a 3/4 pipe into the ground into the water table the water then will seap into the pipe. YOu drive a 10' section of rigid pipe you choose in diameter. Once it is drive down to the grass you screw of the pounding head being a short piece of pipe screwd onto a coupling then onto the driven pipe to protect the threads when pounding on the end of the pipe. This short piece will mushroom bigger as you pound on it and you can cut of the swelled part and reuse again as a protector from the pounding to protect the driven pipe threads from being damaged. Use a tall step ladder. Slide the pipe driver you rent or make over the end of the pipe and the receiver short protector piece discribed above. Slide your driver up then slam it down and the pipe will sink into the earth. Keep driving till the driven pipe reaches the grass going down the ladder as you drive that pipe into the ground. Then screw a new pipe on and start over at the top repeating till you have driven the pipe into the water table. The drop string he speaks of will tell you when you hit water if you keep your ear on the end of the pipe as you drop the string slowly. You will hear the water slosh in the pipe. Mark the string and pull it out telling you by measuring the string length to from your mark how deep the water level is. Then go down again with your string until you reach your mark. Then drop the string slowly till you feel slack telling you that you hit bottom. This will tell you the size of the water voluume inside the pipe to be pumped.

You may buy a hand pump or buy a vacuum style water pump using a foot valve so the water does not go back into the well losing teh vacuum or what they call prime and you have running water now.

The bigger pipe you use the more water at a time you can pump depending on how fast your well will perk into the pipe.

If you have enough in you to drive a 4" pipe that far into the ground you can use a submerssible pump. Doubt you will want to work that hard unless you have a well drilling machine.

Good Luck

Wg